Posted: February 15, 2014 in Uncategorized
Much talk about someone named Ryan divulging his interpretation of the poem. He claims to have solved the riddle and was or is going to quit the chase and publish his notes. This has many chasers upset. I think I now know what has gotten some followers to ignore my desire for their comments on this site. I try hard to include something relevant on this site and I think that is an irritation to those certain few. This site is a place to share ideas and therefore an affront to those who get upset if a clue is revealed that may lead to the finding of the trove. I am sorry they have come to feel this way. Dal says if you say you have solved the poem or think you know where it is he won’t ok your comments and it will get you rejected from ever being on his blog. Ok, its his blog so I got no problem with that. His blog site is very good and I recommend it to anyone searching for the treasure. He is not the only one to feel this way. I have figured that at least 50% of those commenters on his blog agree that people who say they know something are to be left out. To get oked a commenter must say it is his opinion or he is not sure but or such qualifiers before they make their statements. Again ok, that is his privilege and I respect that. I have an opinion on why people react so strongly to someone saying they know they are correct . Here is what I have come to believe.
(1) It is rude to say you are sure of yourself. Like the Greek story of Beowulf the hero comes in bragging on his ability to save the King from Grindle and most of us cringe to hear a braggart but this is a cultural matter. We are not supposed to be full of ourselves we must be like the English and be humble. Well, I am not English but like Beowulf I am Greek so maybe I have offended.
(2) People looking for the treasure tend to believe they have ownership after putting in time to the search and think they will be cheated if someone gives away its whereabouts to someone they perceive to be less deserving than themselves. The treasure is not anyones and the rules are not made by anyone not even Fenn at this point. If people converge on an area given out by a website then enjoy the union, have a party just don’t dig. Please don’t dig holes. Please respect the mountains.
(3) We all will be disappointed when it is found.
(4) If you have a hard time examining yourself you are warned not to read this fourth piece. Psychologically we must all deal with our own unconscious as this is where most if not all anger begins. All of us have in us our two-year old. My two-year-old self gets frustrated when I cannot get what I want, ie solve the poem and just like a two-year old I want help but I still want to be the one to solve it. If you have had children you know halfway through helping, the youngster gets frustrated because he now wants to finish. Mad if you don’t help, mad if you do. Hey we are all this way until we face it and work to handle the frustration in a mature way. The thing is it will anger most of us because we are human. So we look to get help then get mad if someone gives too much help.
Why do you look at, read and maybe comment on the blogs about Forrest Fenn? If it is out of interest or entertainment then there is nothing that would insite you to anger but if it is to learn and perhaps get important info please control the child. You should not look for info and then be mad at those who give it out. If someone’s answer to the poem ties you in knots you are the one needed to untie it.
I don’t want the whereabouts of the treasure revealed before I find it and I look at all the websites to find out what others think, so even though it hurts when someone divulges my secret spots, I remember thats how it works. Seems to me everyone has choices. Don’t read the blogs that share ideas or start a website that only allows lite chit chat. This site allows both. It is ” The Thrill of The Chase” getting there first is the goal. If someone gives out the treasure’s hidden place beat them to it and win the race.
Here are some ideas to help others on their search. Forrest says the box has dancing women on the sides. He should know after all he bought the Roman lock box but there is another description that to me is the correct interpretation of the figures. They are bricklayers wearing aprons and standing on ladders. Now I have written about this before but never publish it. I thought his women dancing referred to a place I have not yet checked out. If you tie this in with the blaze and the Yellowstone it leads to a spot of interest. Sorry you’ll have to do some of your own work to know to what this refers to as I cannot get myself to just hand it out. The biggest problem with this place is getting all the clues to fit. I’ll give you one more hint. If I wanted to fish for large browns in a place that few go but many walk pass this is a good one.
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Posted: February 10, 2014 in Uncategorized
If you happen to be near Pagosa Springs you might want to stop by the Blue Spruce at the bottom of Wolf Creek Pass. I was there last August with my fishing buddies. My second day there while enjoying some ribs and cold beer the owner of this beautiful resort sat down to join me and the conversation got around to Forrest Fenn. To my surprise the owner had a very interesting story around the treasure. A few weeks earlier a treasure hunter asked if he could empty the ice machine at the registrar’s office. He even offered to buy all the ice in the cooler. This being a rather strange request the hunter offered his theory on the treasure’s whereabouts. Seems the hunter believed the treasure was in the ice machine. I replied with all the clues in the poem and assumed they would rule out any chance of the trove being anywhere around Wolf Creek Pass but to my surprise the owner gave me examples of every clue. Warm waters are nearby, there are two ranches owned by Brown in the area and just up the road a waterfall that freezes in the winter and somewhere nearby is a lost treasure left by a French troupe. My interest peaked, I started asking around and I got some great info at the Pagosa Springs sporting goods store One of the owners there show me some maps of the area and told me how to get on the river near the Brown Ranch. This is public land easily accessible by boat and or a hard to find turn out. After looking for this turn out I headed back to get directions a second time. This second trip I found the turn out. After looking around I found an old gas line with a bleed off pipe about fifteen feet in height. This is a pipe where you would see a large flame when the gas is burned off. Blaze came to mind and you can bet I gave the area a good look over. The owner back at the sports store said when he was last out in that area he saw an older gentleman walking around the area. I plan to bring photos of Fenn next time I go and get the owner to tell me if that was who he saw.
This post never got posted till now. I must of done something wrong and just missed it. anyway the story is too good to leave it out.
Posted: December 13, 2013 in Uncategorized
Tags: Forrest Fenn
SURVIVAL NOTICE FROM FORREST
“Winter is upon the Rockies from the Canadian border in the north to Santa Fe in the south, and the many lofty mountain tops that are jammed in-between. Most searchers have retired for the winter and are saving money for expeditions planned for spring when the mountain laurel will again bloom above 5,000. Others complain about the cold but continue searching favored locations. For those who are still active, please heed the rules that govern cold weather survival.
Some fireside researchers have ganged together on the blogs hoping to find flaws in my character that will miraculously lead them to the treasure. It is interesting also, that crazies continue to surface. I have emails from both police and doctors suggesting that I stay alert. Being Forrest Fenn is getting harder all the time, but it will continue to be fun as long as I have a tree to hide behind, maybe a tree with an f carved in its trunk.” – FF
Rarely would I reprint something that’s on another’s blog, but this is important and should be heeded. As for the following quote “Some fireside researchers have ganged together on the blogs hoping to find flaws in my character that will miraculously lead them to the treasure. It is interesting also, that crazies continue to surface….” I say Forrest Fenn has never shown me any reason to doubt his good intentions. I do study Fenn, not for character flaws but to watch for slips that give us hints to the way he thinks. Let me be the first to say it is hard to be looked in the mouth after giving the treasure horse. Unfortunately no good deed goes unpunished. Those will get what they give. Enough quotes. Thanks for the warning Mr. Fenn and may you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Posted: December 12, 2013 in Uncategorized
To understand this post become familiar with earlier posts of hunts in the Lamar Valley. The impression in a hollowed tree convinced me I had found where the treasure was hidden. Only now have I concluded that it is not the imprint of the fabled treasure. The print was perfectly smooth with a flat bottom. I now believe the roman chest would leave a different print than the one I found.
Another place now has my attention but I am not looking to get hyperthermic so I will wait till summer is here once again. This place is at least worth looking into and at best the most supported site (by the poem) I have come to find. So how do I share this new revelation and still be the first one there? Well, I’ll give out the ideas that lead me to this new site but the site itself will remain unwritten.
There our blogs that for me were too far out to consider but the truth may be in the world of the metaphysical. Women on the top and sides of the box does point out a possible place when combined with some of the strangest tells of losing your sole if you open the chest. The bronze box is also a hint. A Ranger’s claim about a trail going behind high waters really tweaked my interest. How the poem maps out a way to the treasure is very important. If followed the clues will lead to the treasure but this doesn’t mean the clues are linear. Forrest says follow the clues in order but that does’t mean the clues take the reader in a linear route. Example would be the clue put in below the home of Brown. You may not need to go by the Home of Brown to put in below the home of Brown. I think the Home of Brown is an area not a spot on the map. Forrest says he made the poem like an architect would, maybe he built the poem around the chest not to the chest. ” Begin it here warm waters halt” but don’t walk from there, you walk from the blaze quickly down. Maybe the blaze is a trail that leads to the last two clues. Maybe to begin it refers to an area as does the clue home of Brown. The ideas I have shared took me to the place I will explore next. I have included these ideas in hopes of warming a vary cold place.
How about your trail any comments are like wood on the fire so warm our winter months with a word or two.
Posted: December 5, 2013 in Uncategorized
Winter is knocking, snow is falling and it is cold out there. Cold too are the clues we hoped for on the Today Show. The treasure is safe and under a white blanket so it is time for reflection. Not much new info on the blogs as I can tell, so I thought I would put out some new ideas to kick around. First a few questions: Why has the Today Show stopped airing the monthly clues? How can Fenn be sure the treasure will be waiting for us in the spring? Does Fenn’s statement about the treasure (saying it was not buried) mean anything?
Okay, here is some info you may be able to use. There is an old road from Mammoth Springs to Gardiner. This road may be hiked and at times auto travel is also allowed. The road is seldom used and mostly unknown to visitors of the Park. There are a number of clues in that area, and it could be passed by on the way down the canyon. Joe Brown lived in Gardiner with his wife. He also lived in Cinnabar just north of Gardiner and mined just south in Bear Gulch. Uncle Joe also lived in Cooke City outside the north east gate of the Yellowstone. This is the gate closest to Cody Wy. and Cody is frequented by Forrest. Now for you history and art buffs, keep in mind that the poem has many references to people’s names and places. For instance, the Wise River off the Madison, not far from Firehole; Brown who painted the Mammoth Springs, and Ranger Brown of the Yellowstone. There it is, some old and some new ideas. I have three new places to look and one is closer to Mammoth than it is to the home of Brown but it fits with Warm Springs up at Silver Gate. I feel Forrest took a drive in the fall after attending a meeting in Cody. He went into the Yellowstone and hid the treasure within 500 ft of the highway , and got back in time for lunch with his wife in Cody. Am I sure of this? No, but that’s my intuitive side being expressed.
I wonder why bloggers who follow my blog are not making comments here, on this blog? If there ever was something that I have written to offend please let me know and I’ll make amends. Finally, I would like to team up with those looking in the Yellowstone. I believe it is near or in the Park.
Please, someone start a blaze and warm up our winter. Give us something new to get excited about.
Posted: October 28, 2013 in Uncategorized
Looking over the latest news on Forrest’s treasure I am left unsatisfied. There’s very little about the poem itself. Forrest says the poem is built by an architect. There is something important in the way it is written. “Every word is there for a reason. All you need is the poem.” Many of the hunters have got the first two clues but Forrest says, then they go pass the next clues and miss the treasure. I think they drive past it but they get within 500 ft. of the the treasure. Those that do get close must have used the first two clues in the wright way. So what are the first two clues? How do these two clues get hunters so close. The area is huge but these two clues must identify an area unlike anywhere else.
I have noticed the info here is spread about the internet. My site has been used in many hunter sites and I say great. Use whatever you like. I would like the others to leave comments but too few are being left. Ok, can anyone tell me why this site is on the no comment list.
Here is an offer, explain how the first two clues refer to an area close to the treasure. Place your comment on this post and a team of three will vote on the clue they think is most plausible. The winner will receive $50. Really $50 will be given to who ever offers the best explanation. Here’s the rules : The decision of the three judges is final; only after 10 or more comments will there be a decision; only comments of marett will be considered. So go for it I will give away the prize.
Attending the book signing of Forrest’s new book was more eventful than I expected. I had the opportunity to meet Forrest, thank him for the adventure and clear up some questions I had. Forrest and two other renowned authors sat in front of a full house to talk and answer a few questions. I enjoyed using NLP techniques as I watched for a clue to come to the surface that had not been filtered by the conscience mind of Forrest. First the clues Major Fenn did know he gave:
1. It is below 20,000 feet.
2. It is not on a mountain top.
3. There is one clue in his new book.
Now the clues or clue he did not mean to give. Fenn said he did not put a clue in the book on purpose but a lady who helped him produce the book pointed out a clue he did put in the book. Here is the unspoken meaning behind that statement; This lady knows enough to know a clue how would this lady point out a clue if only Fenn knows the location of the treasure? Let’s hear some comments on this. Fenn agrees it is a clue but how would she know?
Fenn shows his wit by misdirecting the audience’s attention to the cover pictures. Dal’s shadow is on the cover with a background of Forrest’s favorite bathing hole somewhere in Montana along side the Madison river. Later he talks about the larger background on the cover saying it came from another spot on the same river. BUT he never said they were the clue in the book. Earlier it was a clue – one clue- in the book and the bait and switch was talking about the cover outside the book (cover) of two not one picture outside the cover. This is the challenge, knowing what is a distraction and what is a solid clue.
Now, here is the unfiltered clue he gave without much thought. He responded to the question would you take me to the treasure (in jest) he answered do you have a plane. Need a plane to go an hour or two in New Mexico? Maybe but a plane suggest more than a short drive and also suggest an airport near by the treasure. Just how near an airport is still a mystery but it is his vehicle of choice to go to the area.
Ok, your turn, what do you think? Anything pro or con is welcome.
Last thought Forrest is either ambidextrous or left handed. I say he is left handed but learned to use his right hand early. He uses his left hand to hold a glass. This may not be important but as a lefty it can make a lot of small differences.